Paying small fees for account could be risky. Cause that would mean you need to make account for paypal or smth else to pay for your account, and many players who are currently playing are below 18-21 so they won't have chance to open account in bank. Why don't just ban account of maphacker and make him pay to unlock it. I am sure he won't dare to maphack again. Although he could simply make another account, but that's why i won't play in low lvl rooms. Only in checked rooms with checked people.

When you are creating maphack, you need to search for boolean code in script of the game which tells you if fog is on or off. When you find it, you change entry for that constant to "off" and simply play the game without that option. Ice has huge problems with maphacking, cause he is not allowed to change original code of wc3 engine, so guys who break the code can easily find and change what they want. -ah command in DotA is meant to reset fog after all systems are triggered when you start the game. (that's why you need to wait 10-15 seconds to write -ah). But even that can be bypassed. I am sure that Valve will put huge amount off effort into masking those places in their code, making any possible customization as much difficult it can get.

well paying for the game is ok for people who already know it
cuz we all know how much dota is amazing, but the problem is we need the community to expand
and unless this is free the community will be 1/3 of what it could be.

Avalon wrote:

Paying small fees for account could be risky. Cause that would mean you need to make account for paypal or smth else to pay for your account, and many players who are currently playing are below 18-21 so they won't have chance to open account in bank. Why don't just ban account of maphacker and make him pay to unlock it. I am sure he won't dare to maphack again. Although he could simply make another account, but that's why i won't play in low lvl rooms. Only in checked rooms with checked people.

When you are creating maphack, you need to search for boolean code in script of the game which tells you if fog is on or off. When you find it, you change entry for that constant to "off" and simply play the game without that option. Ice has huge problems with maphacking, cause he is not allowed to change original code of wc3 engine, so guys who break the code can easily find and change what they want. -ah command in DotA is meant to reset fog after all systems are triggered when you start the game. (that's why you need to wait 10-15 seconds to write -ah). But even that can be bypassed. I am sure that Valve will put huge amount off effort into masking those places in their code, making any possible customization as much difficult it can get.

ooo... got it! yeah Damn ChiTTeR!!! they'r Chickenzzzz

Yeah Avalon, and even if they figure out how to crack it, the best thing is that because Dota now will be a game with its own engine and everything, is that everything can be patched with a simple update ^^

Yes, just make simple, 10 seconds update every time we start the game to overwrite tempered code.

syria wrote:

well paying for the game is ok for people who already know it
cuz we all know how much dota is amazing, but the problem is we need the community to expand
and unless this is free the community will be 1/3 of what it could be.

I agree with you and as you, i am for freeing us from any kind of paying. But i am sure Valve is not interested in making the game free, cause they will loose huge amount of money. As i said, i actually don't mind paying for the game, but just don't fee us for a full price. It's like paying full price for a Cod - Zombie Mod..

ill pay if it is 1 time fee cuz i like Dota and Valve.. but if i have to pay it every month ill keep playing HoN or something else..

I'd buy it one but I wouldn't pay monthly because of Valve...
If Blizzard would have made a cooperation with them I would pay monthly.
It's just because I hate Valve they are unable to do an own game they
just get the developer and say it's their own!

syria wrote:

well paying for the game is ok for people who already know it
cuz we all know how much dota is amazing, but the problem is we need the community to expand
and unless this is free the community will be 1/3 of what it could be.

Syria also has a point. Paying for something you will need to learn for months (or even more) if you are beginner could be really discouraging. Although i won't mind paying for the game, there will surely be new players who will mind paying for it.

^ that is why they are implementing so many stuff to make it easy to learn, because that is the reason number 1 why ppl stop playing dota, the initial curve, and with so many douches blaming everyone when they are loosing is just discouraging xD

But how can i pay for dota if i am under 18 years old...i dont have a card...or if someones parents dont want to give to him and he would really want to play it ?

You will probably buy the game in the store.

what he said ^
meanwhile u can dowload warcraftIII TFF and play dota (1) in garena ^^

for free

Guys in Valve will make this game one time payment for sure. Most of their profit will come in first few months until all DotA players buy their own game. But later, if they want to lure more players, they will need to do something cause there will be less people who will be willing to pay for the game and then learn it for months.

I think that some simbolic price would be ok for all. There are many players that play DotA (and not HoN) because its free. For me DotA is better,but not everyone shares my opinion. Personaly,i will pay the price needed. Develepers want to make some money,but there are other ways to do that,either to charge for the game. Establishing a price for the game will decrese the number of players dramaticli,thats for sure.

At least they won't dare to abuse or hack in DotA 2 cause that can result in simple ban of their account which they payed. :/

So, i am totaly for paying for the game, but i hope the price won't be to big.

xodus wrote:

At least they won't dare to abuse or hack in DotA 2 cause that can result in simple ban of their account which they payed. :/

So, i am totaly for paying for the game, but i hope the price won't be to big.

Thats a good point but it would be better if we could buy the game in the store than with cradit card.....
In that way i could save some money and buy it without begging my parents to buy it for me

I am sure they will take care of that. I mean, most of people who play dota are under 18 and if they make it buy-able only over internet, they risk loosing considerable amount of money..

Exactly as Xodus said. Smart girl

:O

you wanna have problems with me avalon? or you are scared i am smarter than you?

let's just stay on topic :roll:

Those who dare to hack shall be punished

first of all hacking a 2011 game will be hard, specially if it is online and second, there will be few whom dare to hack xP thought they payed for the game, like xodus said

Good thing i think before they let it in the stores they should give something like trial or something like that for about 10 days, so we can try it without paying.... you know what i mean like WoW on original blizzard server...

i think that it works better with RPGs
instead of a trial nindza94, there will be beta testing =]