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Here you are free to discuss anything regarding philosophy, religion and day to day conundrums that keep you up at night.

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2. DO NOT INSULT ANYBODIES QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT THINK IS STUPID.
3. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
4. RESPECT EACH OTHERS DIFFERENT VIEWS.
5. DON'T MAKE A STATEMENT THAT YOU CANNOT BACK UP WITH ACTUAL FACTS.
6. TRY TO ABSORB ANYTHING YOU DIDN'T KNOW.
7. HAVE FUN, SET YOUR MIND FREE.


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If reincarnation is real, we are actually not aware of our lives. Why? Well, if we have reincarnated and lived few lives before this one, we don't remember them, so logically we are not aware of this one also.
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Avalon wrote:
If reincarnation is real, we are actually not aware of our lives. Why? Well, if we have reincarnated and lived few lives before this one, we don't remember them, so logically we are not aware of this one also.

Oh My GoD! This actually does have sense :O
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Here's a question:

If I said to you, "Never take advice, including this."

What would you do?

EDIT: Oh Avalon, we are not currently aware of our past lives, if they existed, but we are currently aware of this one, and we shall not be aware of this life or any other life in future lives, except the lives themselves during the duration of each specific life, assuming, once again, that the given lives will exist beyond this life.

"I did not begin when I was born, nor when I was conceived. I have been growing, developing, through incalculable myriads of millenniums. All my previous selves have their voices, echoes, promptings in me. Oh, incalculable times again shall I be born."
~Jack London, The Star Rover
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Rachel wrote:
Avalon wrote:
If reincarnation is real, we are actually not aware of our lives. Why? Well, if we have reincarnated and lived few lives before this one, we don't remember them, so logically we are not aware of this one also.

Oh My GoD! This actually does have sense :O

I like the fact that we aren't aware of our past lives, like we don't remember that we was Napoleon, JFK or somebody who did an important thing on history Smile
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Buddha was aware of his past lives >.>
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Our personality is actually pure energy using material body. Once body passes out, our spirit "resets" and goes to different body.

or not Razz
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Rachel wrote:
Our personality is actually pure energy using material body. Once body passes out, our spirit "resets" and goes to different body.

or not Razz

You are reading my mind <3
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if Reincarnation is Real

1.life will be a infinity loop (this loop will end when the world is ended or human is extinc)
2.A new born Baby will count as new life ? or Replacement ?
3.is Animal life / other life being also count as replaceable spot for life ?
4.reincarnation will denies Judgement day ?? or after couple life we still get judgement day ?

5. If reincarnation REAL ppl can be a LEAVER when got bad life (kill himself to seek another life ) << can God banned this person Razz


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qassamzed wrote:

If reincarnation REAL ppl can be a LEAVER when got bad life (kill himself to seek another life ) << can God banned this person Razz

LOL

In Hinduism, it is said that when humans die they reincarnate as rats and when they die again they reincarnate as humans again.
an infinite cycle of rats and humans, cool.
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Loving this!!! looks Juicey. will have a look tonight. Cos right now im looking over my shoulder typing!!! :!:
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@ AVA Ok we, we are aware of our lives (in the smaller picture but in the bigger picture know.) to an extent.
There are those that claim to be aware of their past lives but to be honest i don't think its possible, i don't have anything to back this up, how could i? I dont believe people can be certain to know what they did in their past lives or so on. lol maybe by taking some LSD (im not saying anybody should) and being hypnotised by some Tibetan monk whilst drinking some potion that some far off african itch doctor made it might be possible to get a glimpse of something.... nah just lols. Theres probably no solid way of proving anything like this....for the time being.

@ GRAVEDAMN JUST lol!!! thats a trick..
Its like this pick up line i remember reading somewhere. Goes like so: If i asked you to have sex with me would your answer be the same as to this question> Very Happy so corny, but back to your question theres no possible way of answering that question. Lol Interesting quote, well done Very Happy


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if Reincarnation is Real

1.life will be a infinity loop (this loop will end when the world is ended or human is extinc)
2.A new born Baby will count as new life ? or Replacement ?
3.is Animal life / other life being also count as replaceable spot for life ?
4.reincarnation will denies Judgement day ?? or after couple life we still get judgement day ?

5. If reincarnation REAL ppl can be a LEAVER when got bad life (kill himself to seek another life ) << can God banned this person



@ QASS As far as the infinte loop, well yeah. My theiry is that before our own (someday) dying star will consume our own planet we will most probably kill ourselves. The Human race will be the cause of its own extinction. We are parasites. We take and give nothing back, not enough anyway. People refuse to open their eyes, we are in a downward spiral. Maybe we will kill ourselves by Nuclear war, maybe in the end a slow death from pollution. Gassed like vermin. If we manage to survive that... wel like i mention theres the dying start thing. How can we possibly escape that? Ok so we get smart and move out of our own Galaxy by some Miracle, We wont have any natural resources, how long will we last before the last of our food, water and other resources run out again. End game, we die. We take to much and give to little.
AS for the newborn babies, they are new lives if it truly is the case. World population is constantly increasing more then it should because of medicine, mother natures way of strengthening the human race has fallen away. Natural selection has been cancelled out because of medicine. Weak genes are just being passed down to the next generation because medicine is prolonging peoples lives in an unnatural way. Back to the original question.... if reincarnation is actually something is truly happening then some lives are new and some are old souls i guess.
As for the animals, i am not sure, something to be thought about.
Not sure what you mean by it, try rephrasing it pls?
As for your last question, well if you are religious, suicide is not good for you. Christianity frowns upon it and as far as i understand it Muslim extremists are for it. The more you take with a suicide better your chances are for a spot in Nirvana etc... If i am incorrect and there are muslims that do browse our portal pls correct me if i am wrong. My personal opinion.
Regardless of your reasons, whether it be for your God or for personal gain, i think suicide is for cowards. Live your life! You can do more for your religion by serving your God whilst you are still alive. Once again, my opinion.

Human>RAT>Human>rat... its gotta be a curse of some kind. I have a Hindu friend, i am gna ask him nest time i see him.
Would like to know what his opinion is .

Ok heres my 5cents
nothing for now. Just emjoying the Different questions. Would like to recommend You all to read a short piece Written by
BERTRAND RUSSEL.... IS THERE A GOD. Its an excelent read. Wanna hear everybodies comments plox.






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4.reincarnation will denies Judgement day ?? or after couple life we still get judgement day ?

( it mean : do you think reincarnation will prevent "Final Day" (when god choose to put you at heaven / hell in afterlife ) or we just nothing / empty after infinity loop broken.

for suicide
i am a muslim but not extremist (if i'am an extrimist maybe I already blow myself somewhere Razz )
actually from both muslim / extrimist follow same holy book (in the book its clear suicide = Hell.....but the extrimist justify this with "narrow minded jihad" ) .
yes..the extrimist believe sacrifice yourself for struggle will reward you a heaven (Suicide bomber included )

my opinion about suicide for fight
Suicide bomb Calculate
1. ( Jihad / holy war = True ) purpose : liberation / repel the invader
2. ( Suicide = Wrong ) in holy book : suicide = Hell
3. (Innocent Victim = Wrong ) in holy book : do not kill elder,woman,children,unarmed ppl,surrender enemy,animal,tree

1 true vs 2 wrong = Wrong Win

" If you are go to enemy base then open fire at enemy....then you get killed by enemy bullet it will not count as Suicide "
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Ah i see, well that depends on your beliefs then. If you perhaps are a christian or a Muslim then i suppose it does change things.
I know most christian beliefs believe that when you die you will rest until you are resurected by the lord.
So if that is the case then well yes it does cancel out judgement day. If you reincarnate then there can possibly be no god.
It is simple, you cant have good without evil. You cant believe in demons and not a god. Ergo you cant believe in resurection and God. ... well i suppose it depends on your religion, apologies i am not that well versed in most other religions, i just try my best to approach all with an open mind, im not christian either.
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When you see a ghost shout at it.
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lancer60 wrote:
When you see a ghost shout at it.

hey lancer are you already see a ghost / have some experience with "ghost" ??
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That's my philosophy. don't judge me

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lancer60 wrote:
That's my philosophy. don't judge me


no.. just asking. ^ ^
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Views on Ghosts and spirits?
Think they are around?
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-endzeit- wrote:
Views on Ghosts and spirits?
Think they are around?

I completely believe that spirits are true (take for example the Holy Spirit) but ghost aren't. God didn't create Ghost, man did, or maybe satan did.
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meh i dont know about ghosts, i like the idea of it but i am sceptical.

Has Anybody read that piece by Bertrand Russel yet??
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^A ghost has no mass, and hence, it cannot experience gravity or momentum. This leads to nothing binding a ghost to the earth, at the speed the earth is travelling (around the sun, with the sun travelling around the galaxy, with the galaxy moving with the other galaxies, with the entire universe floating in the big bathtub).

How the hell would you see it?

@-endzeit-: All generalisations are false, including this one.
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@GravedamN
haha yeah


Ghost : ppl say it is a dead ppl soul
but i think its unreal being just like angel or satan who live in other dimension world

i try watch some "ghost" tv program in national geo / discovery channel /other channel ...no one can show real prove like image / video..
the evidence just a personal experience, weird light ball / gas , electromagnetic field , weird unexplained sound , temperatur change ,etc
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Ghost are true. Just like God.
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@ lancer60
yeah its really true but cannot be proved with solid evidence coz it from other world
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