So, we all expect that DotA 2 will look great with all those new special effects and designs and in the same time we expect from it to keep the DotA's well-known and fluid gameplay. But if you think closely, those 2 things just don't go together.. Nice and advanced special effects will consume much more system's resources what can result in mass lag when 3-4-5 epic spells are triggered in the same time. Even in original DotA i have had situations where my system couldn't effectively consume all those colors. Logicly, those situations will increase with the DotA 2 graphics, but in what quantity?

What i want to say is that i am prepared to see not-so-breathtaking graphics to keep the gameplay on maximum level. How about you?

I actually agree with you. Gameplay is really important, the graphics are really just a bonus. I mean, we have the PS3, but not so many PS3 games with good gameplay, I sometimes go back to my PS2 and play those epic games.

Graphic is not matter to me although i would love to see some improvement. For the game like DotA, gameplay is much more important to me. I have a feeling that something will pop up soon from them.

I agree with Fiyah and xodus... Gameplay is on the first place. They just need to make some little changes in graphics and design that is different than DotA 1.

Ofc for a game like DotA gameplay is the important thing. It have to run smoothly, and you have to be able to see what's going on on the screen. You don't want it all to blur into each other, so it all looks the same.

HoN has nice graphics but it doesn't lag on me so can't they be atleast on par with them?

F0ULB3AST wrote:

HoN has nice graphics but it doesn't lag on me so can't they be atleast on par with them?

they could. but theyre enemies now. since they both copyrighted DotA.

Fiyah wrote:

F0ULB3AST wrote:

HoN has nice graphics but it doesn't lag on me so can't they be atleast on par with them?

they could. but theyre enemies now. since they both copyrighted DotA.

What I meant was that if S2 has the resources to make an aesthetically pleasing game then valve should have no problem with it . The only reason it should lag is because of your computer/internet problems.

yeah. I got you the first time. and yeah, the only problem would be your computer or your connection. thats why people are suggesting to put gameplay into priority rather than graphics. because, majority of the people's system cant even handle HON.

So, you are definetly for the gameplay? Additional question,.. would you be ok with the "lol" kinda look in DotA 2 then? (cartoonish look)

Avalon wrote:

So, you are definetly for the gameplay? Additional question,.. would you be ok with the "lol" kinda look in DotA 2 then? (cartoonish look)

actually, I would mind. its not that I dont like LOL's graphics, but I just think its not for DotA.

Maybe it's just the WC3 engine being old but, after all this time, the dark low-contrast setting seems to set the mood.

But as I know, Source engine is not so much newer than the War3 engine...

Possibly better graphics and SLI CF support just like the l4d series and CS:S.

Just can't wait for it. It's 2011 now, why isn't even a leak screen shot of it...

I am afraid it is not going to come out any time soon.

WhoAmI wrote:

Just can't wait for it. It's 2011 now, why isn't even a leak screen shot of it...

I am afraid it is not going to come out any time soon.

I would not worry too much. They "just" have to convert DotA 1 into something prettier. All those most important things like balance, heroes, items and skills are already developed, so they don't have to waste too much time on that.

I am sure icefrog gets tons of e-mails every day from eager fans who can't wait for more content. It would be like signing a death penalty if he disapoint us

Avalon wrote:

WhoAmI wrote:

Just can't wait for it. It's 2011 now, why isn't even a leak screen shot of it...

I am afraid it is not going to come out any time soon.

I would not worry too much. They "just" have to convert DotA 1 into something prettier. All those most important things like balance, heroes, items and skills are already developed, so they don't have to waste too much time on that.

I am assuming that isn't that easy. Although I do agree with you that they will have to convert dota1 into dota2, but the whole point of having dota2 isn't just bringing dota out of the war3 engine plus greater graphics. Valve should really bring dota into a whole different level, to world competitive gaming rather than graphics only.
Graphics doesn't make a good game. Valve is great enough to know that, they should have learned the mistake from CS1.6 to CS:S. Better graphics without carrying out any innovations didn't go as well as every one expect. But yeah I still believe valve.

Well, i admit i was kinda subjective, but that's only mine opinion, from a casual gamer stand. And cause of that, i won't have time to deal with the game which will bring us so many things for which i will need weeks and months to catch up. So i would be fine with simple graphic conversions and nothing more. And of course, nothing less.

I agree with you that DotA 2 should become the game before which the world will tremble, (what is logically expected from the game that carries the name DotA 2), but there is one thing which "messes up" everything; and it's called relativity..

Should the game introduce us tons of new materials and mass weekly updates to become something noticable, or will simple graphic advancements with general and free future supports (map updates, new heroes and so on) suffice? For me, the second thing will be just fine

I would like it to have the option to switch between the breath-taking graphics and the wooden-pcs graphics

Howlgram wrote:

I would like it to have the option to switch between the breath-taking graphics and the wooden-pcs graphics

Im sure the'll think of something.

Avalon wrote:

So, you are definetly for the gameplay? Additional question,.. would you be ok with the "lol" kinda look in DotA 2 then? (cartoonish look)

I would also mind cartoonish look. Prefere look from HoN or even better. And about grahpic, I agree with Howlgram - try and please both great PC config and low config PC. Do not let anyone suffer from it.