just an addition to this...after we get a stable team and some training.. we'll try to step into competitive scene...will probably start with GEST...with goals set to bigger tournaments...And we never rage but discussions on individual's mistakes between players can be really effective for improving our level of play we believe. of coz, as soon as we reached our first step, i'm pretty sure that there will be an extensive training time but it will be decided by the leader..kopyae.... I'm just saying so...